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and ironically if you repeal obama care, and i've become fond of this terms, obama care. if you repeal it, what happens, those seniors right away will be paying $600 more in prescription care. they'll now have to pay co pays for basic checkups that could keep them healthier. and the primary beneficiary of that repeal are insurance companies that are estimated to gain billions of dollars back when they aren't making seniors any healthier, and i don't think that's the right approach when it comes to making sure that medicare is stronger over the long term. >> we'll talk about -- specifically about health care in a moment. do you support the voucher system, governor? >> what i support is no change for current retirees and near retirees to medicare and the president supports taking $716 billion out of that program. >> what about the voucher. >> that's number one. >> all right. >> number two is for people coming along that are young, what i'd do to make sure that we can keep medicare in place for them, is to allow them to either choose the current medicare program or a private
and ironically if you repeal obama care, and i've become fond of this terms, obama care. if you repeal it, what happens, those seniors right away will be paying $600 more in prescription care. they'll now have to pay co pays for basic checkups that could keep them healthier. and the primary beneficiary of that repeal are insurance companies that are estimated to gain billions of dollars back when they aren't making seniors any healthier, and i don't think that's the right approach when it comes...
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tonight and "outfront," the obama slide. a brand new poll of likely voters showing mitt romney out ahead and leading the president 49-45%. and look at this. since last month, the president is down six percentage points in that same poll. now, it is just one poll, but take a closer look at the numbers and there may be some pretty red flags out there for the incumbent. voters say romney did a better job at the debate on wednesday night. 66 to 20%. and that has helped change some voters views of governor romney. he's now polled even with obama among voters who see him as a quote strong leader. just last month, romney was trailing in that category, trailing, not just by a little. by 13 points, in fact. another contributing factor to obama's slide, women. this might be a surprise, but women are now evenly divided in their support of the two candidates. take a look at your screen. just last month, obama led romney by 18 points among women, so that is big. and keep in mind obama won this voting block by 13 points in 2008, so it's g
tonight and "outfront," the obama slide. a brand new poll of likely voters showing mitt romney out ahead and leading the president 49-45%. and look at this. since last month, the president is down six percentage points in that same poll. now, it is just one poll, but take a closer look at the numbers and there may be some pretty red flags out there for the incumbent. voters say romney did a better job at the debate on wednesday night. 66 to 20%. and that has helped change some voters...
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he plays barack obama. can you believe that? he does. he plays barack obama. he plays him well, too. i hate to tell you. we get the chance to debate one another after the hour and a half or so is over, i want to kick him out of the room. he's so good. >> if mitt romney kicked barack obama out of the room, it would be quite something. >> i imagine he might kick rob portman out of the room for some of the things he said. no, he -- look, i think when they get together, they're going to start talking about the issues. they're going to start talking about the economy. why the deficit's been above $1 trillion now four years running, and maybe if the moderators get into it, what's happening in the middle east, and what they think they can do about it. i think that governor romney's plan's going to be to try to stick to the substance because i think the country knows we need a change. >> i'm only half joking about kicking out of the room. metaphorically, a lot of republicans want to see mitt romney do just that to the president. they want to see him verbally beat him
he plays barack obama. can you believe that? he does. he plays barack obama. he plays him well, too. i hate to tell you. we get the chance to debate one another after the hour and a half or so is over, i want to kick him out of the room. he's so good. >> if mitt romney kicked barack obama out of the room, it would be quite something. >> i imagine he might kick rob portman out of the room for some of the things he said. no, he -- look, i think when they get together, they're going to...
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obama seemed passive, detached, and glum. but what's more significant than how romney said things is what he said. romney repeatedly insisted he was not advocating a big tax kuchlt in fact, he declared unequivocally that he would not cut taxes at all if they added to the deficit at all. now, as "the washington post" reporter checks out, for two years rom hi has been campaigning on a tax cut that would cost around $5 trillion over ten years. he said he would eliminate deductions and spending to pay for it. he never offers details. he did say he would cut funding for public broadcasting which was 0.01% in 2012. medicaid was 0.13%. romney also spoke in favor of regulations including much of the dodd/frank bill and he repeatedly held up as a model his health care plan in massachusetts which has added center the individual mandate and on which obama care is based. romney's transformation did not happen overnight. the candidate has been reworking his stuck stuck speech. he has a five-point stump speech. the first four points are ab
obama seemed passive, detached, and glum. but what's more significant than how romney said things is what he said. romney repeatedly insisted he was not advocating a big tax kuchlt in fact, he declared unequivocally that he would not cut taxes at all if they added to the deficit at all. now, as "the washington post" reporter checks out, for two years rom hi has been campaigning on a tax cut that would cost around $5 trillion over ten years. he said he would eliminate deductions and...
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the daily caller bills it as "obama's other race speech," a barely recognizable obama. says lavr ishes praise on reverend wright, claims the government spends too much on suburbs, not enough on "our neighborhoods." earlier, we played the clip about where he praised jeremiah wright. and now the difference of the response of hurricane katrina to hurricane andrew. >> down in new orleans, there is a federal law called the stafford act. the local government has to give a match. here is the thing. when 9/11 happened in new york city, they waved the stafford act. forget that dollar you have to put in. here is $10. and that was the right thing to do when hurricane andrew struck in florida, they said look at this devastation, don't expect you to put that money in. what's happening in new orleans? where is your dollar, where is your stafford act money? makes no sense. tells me the but let hasn't been taken out. tells me that somehow the people in new orleans, they don't care about as much. >> president obama, that was five years ago. decide for yourself whether this shows a side
the daily caller bills it as "obama's other race speech," a barely recognizable obama. says lavr ishes praise on reverend wright, claims the government spends too much on suburbs, not enough on "our neighborhoods." earlier, we played the clip about where he praised jeremiah wright. and now the difference of the response of hurricane katrina to hurricane andrew. >> down in new orleans, there is a federal law called the stafford act. the local government has to give a...
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so when you look at obama, look at obama care, it mandates people buy insurance. it says, hey, everyone, nearly everyone has to buy insurance or we're going to make you pay money. and it also tells insurance companies, hey, you know what, you got to accept everybody, even the people with expensive pre-existing conditions, you've got to take them in, which they're not doing right now. romney's plan is, we're not going to mandate that you buy insurance, we're going to leave that up to you, and there are going to be fewer requirements placed on insurance companies, way fewer. romney's basic philosophy is the market will, for the most part, take care of problems in our health care system. >> so how does governor romney attack obama care on the stage tonight when the counterattack, you know, is going to be romney care was the foundation for obama care. >> that's right. that's right. and so what i think romney is very likely that romney will do is he's going to attack this as a tax. i think this because he just started this new ad campaign that lays it out there, he say
so when you look at obama, look at obama care, it mandates people buy insurance. it says, hey, everyone, nearly everyone has to buy insurance or we're going to make you pay money. and it also tells insurance companies, hey, you know what, you got to accept everybody, even the people with expensive pre-existing conditions, you've got to take them in, which they're not doing right now. romney's plan is, we're not going to mandate that you buy insurance, we're going to leave that up to you, and...
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president obama won ohio by four points. so i don't think we're at a point where people need to panic. in a close race you have to be attentive to any shifts in the dynamics, but at this point, i think the race is pretty stable. >> ross, do you see a shift in the dynamic? the president has had a massive advantage when it comes to the electoral map which is much bigger than his national lead has ever been and we're just getting the first wave of these polls now, but do you think there's a sense of fundamentals could shift on that front as well? >> sure. i think bill's general point that now is not the time for democrats to panic is pretty sound. i think the president still has an advantage, he's still ahead narrowly in some of these new swing state polls, but obviously, if you had sat down and told obama staffers that mitt romney was about to get the largest post-debate bounce i think of any debate in the last few decades, they wouldn't have been terribly happy with that idea. so is the race suddenly turned completely against
president obama won ohio by four points. so i don't think we're at a point where people need to panic. in a close race you have to be attentive to any shifts in the dynamics, but at this point, i think the race is pretty stable. >> ross, do you see a shift in the dynamic? the president has had a massive advantage when it comes to the electoral map which is much bigger than his national lead has ever been and we're just getting the first wave of these polls now, but do you think there's a...
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we will play a portion of a video being billed as president obama's other race speech. it's a speech from back in 2007. parts of it have been out there for a long time. questions are now being asked about the timing and legitimacy of this tape being released. we'll play a portion of the tape, hear from our panel. you can decide for yourself. we'll be right back. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8... [ male announcer ] did you know that the single cap of gain gives as much freshness as a whole bottle of that other stuff? ♪ that's more than enough freshness to go around... unless you happen to be this guy. [ sniffing ] [ male announcer ] you don't want to be this guy. trust me. get irresistibly fresh with gain. gain originals now available with clean boost. with 20% more cleaning power. >>> in raw politics tonight, the night before tomorrow's big debate in denver, there's a lot of buzz in the
we will play a portion of a video being billed as president obama's other race speech. it's a speech from back in 2007. parts of it have been out there for a long time. questions are now being asked about the timing and legitimacy of this tape being released. we'll play a portion of the tape, hear from our panel. you can decide for yourself. we'll be right back. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8...
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obama the minute mitt romney opens his mouth, obama's taking notes and he just talked and looked down and looked down and looked down. he's never making contact. >> i'm sorry. if you're planning on waxing big bird off of pbs, i don't think that there's americans down for that. >> so, that is from you. thank you for your cnn ireports. now, to twitter. how about some tweets? some downright priceless. first, from dennis miller, obama better hope a kicked rear end is covered under obamacare. next from indecision. the october surprise in this election is that mitt romney is actually good at something. ouch. jim sterling tweets, obama is winning the "looking amazingly condescending when the other guy talks" race. finally this one for you from doug benson. just 14 minutes until we can all go back to preferring the kand date we liked when the debate started. all from twitter. we have a lot more. you know, as far as what happened last night and i promise to hear from the president and it sounds as though he is still debating today. he spoke just a couple hours ago in denver. here he is, presid
obama the minute mitt romney opens his mouth, obama's taking notes and he just talked and looked down and looked down and looked down. he's never making contact. >> i'm sorry. if you're planning on waxing big bird off of pbs, i don't think that there's americans down for that. >> so, that is from you. thank you for your cnn ireports. now, to twitter. how about some tweets? some downright priceless. first, from dennis miller, obama better hope a kicked rear end is covered under...
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obama, president obama, led by five. now, as for today's pew poll, the obama campaign takes issue with the party make-up of people surveyed, saying it tilts republican compared to september. the romney campaign, on the other hand, says it's pleased with the numbers. joining us now, jim acosta with the romney campaign in newport news, virginia and on the phone, dan lothian with president obama's campaign. jim, you're on the trail with the romney campaign. what's the reaction to the latest polling, because republicans were complaining about these polls as soon as last week. now the poll is good news for them. are they complaining? >> well, anderson, i have to tell you i just saw mitt romney standing out in a drenching rain in newport news just a couple hours ago and he still had a smile on his face. they're pretty happy. they have not seen poll numbers like this in some time. i have to tell you, i talked to a senior romney advisor about this pew research center poll and they look at a couple things here. in relation to the
obama, president obama, led by five. now, as for today's pew poll, the obama campaign takes issue with the party make-up of people surveyed, saying it tilts republican compared to september. the romney campaign, on the other hand, says it's pleased with the numbers. joining us now, jim acosta with the romney campaign in newport news, virginia and on the phone, dan lothian with president obama's campaign. jim, you're on the trail with the romney campaign. what's the reaction to the latest...
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obama, 47%. the question is that's who won the debate. is it going to move anything in ohio where polls have shown advantage obama? >> candy, can i jump in here? >> yes, sir. it's your turn. >> romney is going to ohio. romney is going to carry ohio. it's going to be a very, very close race, but this race fundamentally changed wednesday night in ohio. i think it did across the country. tremendous energy now, but i think here's where we were going into the debate. people like -- they said i like the guy, i like his family. he is a good person. he is not doing a very good job. the opponent, then the next question is, is the challenger up to it? is he the person we want? frankly, going into wednesday night, people had not answered that second question. romney had not made the sale. i think what you saw wednesday night was the first opportunity that the average person had to see these two candidates head-to-head for an extended period of time, and when they saw that, guess who won? romney won. he looked presidential, he had confidence, he had
obama, 47%. the question is that's who won the debate. is it going to move anything in ohio where polls have shown advantage obama? >> candy, can i jump in here? >> yes, sir. it's your turn. >> romney is going to ohio. romney is going to carry ohio. it's going to be a very, very close race, but this race fundamentally changed wednesday night in ohio. i think it did across the country. tremendous energy now, but i think here's where we were going into the debate. people like --...
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exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's not. the president is the out on the trail pushing it. >> as a nation we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. more people are getting jobs. now, every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> my friends, whenever fall comes the leaves turn pretty colors and the jobs numbers bring in our dynamic duo, peter and jared. how are you my wonky friends? >> we're wonking along. >> we're pretty wonky. >> do you think that wonk spelled backwards is know? >> excellent. you just blew my mind. >> as is k-n-o-w. were you trying to
exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's not. the president is the out on the trail pushing it. >> as a nation we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. more people are getting jobs. now, every month reminds us that we've still...
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>> it looked like president obama was not prepared. >> the industry e champion did take off today. >> by the way, i like coal. >> as long as he doesn't say anything like this. >> i was in bangkok myself and mark, i didn't see you in the disco. >> well that was the lowest class of all. >> fast money, right now. >> live from the market in new york city's times square. stocks getting a boost today and is this a romney rally? what is the best way to play it. >> i think you have to look at the sector that is most undervalued. i think a romney victory brings back the return of normalized earnings much faster. you will see a regulatory environment that is more in line with what i think the 2012 market should be. we have over regulated in that sense and the value of the us dollar under romney will get stronger. >> karen? >> i agree with what he is saying. there is the perception of economic growth and if that is the case and less regulation, i think you are see the industrials get better. >> i think if we can get back to 2007 and 8: 20 2007 and 2008 levels, it will be better. >> how often do
>> it looked like president obama was not prepared. >> the industry e champion did take off today. >> by the way, i like coal. >> as long as he doesn't say anything like this. >> i was in bangkok myself and mark, i didn't see you in the disco. >> well that was the lowest class of all. >> fast money, right now. >> live from the market in new york city's times square. stocks getting a boost today and is this a romney rally? what is the best way to...
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and here in ohio, obama has a great record. he slapped tariffs on chinese products coming over, that helped job creation in ohio, not to mention the auto industry rescue package and we've had thousands of jobs that have been created, in my congressional district, 4500 jobs at a general motors plant that makes the chevy cruz in lordstown and all of the spin offs. obama is going to be judged on his record here. 30 plus months of growth, job growth, we're no -- no one is celebrating this. no one think we're where we need to be but in ohio we're in a significantly better position than we were in 2008 and 2009. >> we don't have a good post-debate poll in ohio and you could look at the post-debate poll that we do have, as you point out is national, and say, well if that's happening across the country, it's not insane to think that could, obviously, happen in ohio as well. here's the attorney general mike dewine, he was talking about how he thinks this is going to help the debate is really going to help governor romney in the state of
and here in ohio, obama has a great record. he slapped tariffs on chinese products coming over, that helped job creation in ohio, not to mention the auto industry rescue package and we've had thousands of jobs that have been created, in my congressional district, 4500 jobs at a general motors plant that makes the chevy cruz in lordstown and all of the spin offs. obama is going to be judged on his record here. 30 plus months of growth, job growth, we're no -- no one is celebrating this. no one...
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president obama showed up. candidate obama showed up. so i think he got a swift kick in the butt and he realizes that he simply can't go in there and be mr. nice. he has to get his head in the game and focus when romney sits here and makes something up, you tag him on it. you don't simply led it slide. >> hold your thought, rich, for a moment. we're going to continue this conversation. we're also going to take a closer look at mitt romney on the so-called 47% in my interview with the republican nominee he explains why he first stood by those remarks and finally reputuated them. are made with real ingredients you can see. like whole roasted nuts, chewy granola, and real fruit. nature valley trail mix bars. 100% natural. 100% delicious. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the
president obama showed up. candidate obama showed up. so i think he got a swift kick in the butt and he realizes that he simply can't go in there and be mr. nice. he has to get his head in the game and focus when romney sits here and makes something up, you tag him on it. you don't simply led it slide. >> hold your thought, rich, for a moment. we're going to continue this conversation. we're also going to take a closer look at mitt romney on the so-called 47% in my interview with the...
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and i traveled it since obama's been in office. i can tell you i am greeted totally different as an american as a result of this presidency. and his foreign policy. so it's not just about war. it's not just about the middle east. it's about the globe. i think if you really look at it ho wholistically, you would see the president has had a good record in how he's managed the other world leaders in making sure america stays on top. one other thing. if he's going to talk about foreign policy, make sure you bring up some of the things he doesn't like to talk about like how the iran currency has collapsed because of the president's leadership and that there's actually now been rioting in iran because of the president's leadership. also, by the way, osama bin laden is dead. if he doesn't mention that, he's not really being serious. >> john, something that i think that mitt republican keeps saying, that's these huge increases to defense spending. i think most americans really aren't so in favor of that. >> well, look. we see that you have
and i traveled it since obama's been in office. i can tell you i am greeted totally different as an american as a result of this presidency. and his foreign policy. so it's not just about war. it's not just about the middle east. it's about the globe. i think if you really look at it ho wholistically, you would see the president has had a good record in how he's managed the other world leaders in making sure america stays on top. one other thing. if he's going to talk about foreign policy, make...
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obama doesn't care. i think he is coming out looking very bad, larry. >> i want to get a quick take before we bring the members in here. to me, this guy is a cheap shot artist. he may be representing obama you wants a cheap shot to go after the banks and where are the kudos for jp morgan that did this and put this together at a time when everything was unravel elling. >> the federal government was under pressure for the euro europeons. andrew cuomo preceded snyder man and declined to use the act. this is the same evidence that he looked over and said i'm not going ahead with this and there are cases and -- let me get this straight. he decided the evidence wasn't there. snyder man looked at it and he is playing cheap politics. >> that is your opinion. >> he has become a good governor of new york and said no go. and this guy says no go and we are on the eve of an election and jp morgan did the lord's work. somebody had to stock the hemorrhaging. >> there is fraud here. no question about it. who is responsi
obama doesn't care. i think he is coming out looking very bad, larry. >> i want to get a quick take before we bring the members in here. to me, this guy is a cheap shot artist. he may be representing obama you wants a cheap shot to go after the banks and where are the kudos for jp morgan that did this and put this together at a time when everything was unravel elling. >> the federal government was under pressure for the euro europeons. andrew cuomo preceded snyder man and declined...
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president obama, both talking about that. first, bill clinton. >> i thought, wow, here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i miss eed you all these last f years. >> governor romney put forward a whole bunch of stuff that either involved him running away from position he had taken or doubling down on thing like medicare vouchers that are going to hurt him long term. >> so, jim, does the nuance here on abortion by romney, does it play into what the president and others are saying, that romney is reinventing himself here, you know, 27 days before the election? >> well, the romney campaign would argue, no, but you are right that the obama campaign is starting to seize on this, the obama campaign had a conference call earlier this morning and they latched on to something mitt romney said at the cpac conference in february of this year when mitt romney said he was a severely conservative governor. stephanie cutter said on the conference call that, quote, his severely conservative positions that got him through the gop primary
president obama, both talking about that. first, bill clinton. >> i thought, wow, here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i miss eed you all these last f years. >> governor romney put forward a whole bunch of stuff that either involved him running away from position he had taken or doubling down on thing like medicare vouchers that are going to hurt him long term. >> so, jim, does the nuance here on abortion by romney, does it play into what the president and others are...
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he knows latino vote, younger votes could be the difference for president obama. he's trying to chip into that advantage. but the part that makes you scratch your head is why didn't you say that in the first place. >> the timing, the timing. john king, let's talk money. big, big money, karl rove's american crossroads conservative super pac buying $11 million worth of tv ads across eight different swing states. straightforward, you know, the ad talks about unemployment, a lot of numbers here, rising government spending, what is the strategy? why the huge buy-in and why now? >> reporter: why now, because we're into crunch time. there are five weeks left, brooke, and the romney campaign is behind a few points in some of the battleground states, behind a handful in ohio, florida, maybe more in virginia, six or eight in wisconsin. republicans dispute some numbers but no question a dead heat in colorado. a number of super pacs are going in with heavier spending, trying to influence voters and do that after the debate. if romney turns in a strong debate, you hope you hav
he knows latino vote, younger votes could be the difference for president obama. he's trying to chip into that advantage. but the part that makes you scratch your head is why didn't you say that in the first place. >> the timing, the timing. john king, let's talk money. big, big money, karl rove's american crossroads conservative super pac buying $11 million worth of tv ads across eight different swing states. straightforward, you know, the ad talks about unemployment, a lot of numbers...
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obama's and mr. romney didn't do much to change that perception in iran after a speech that lacked specifics but was loaded with rhetoric and familiar tough talk. mr. romney said he'll put iran's leaders on notice, rhetoric mr. obama has used plenty of times. he also said he won't hesitate to impose sanctions. of course, mr. obama has already done that. it's been under his administration that western powers have delivered the toughest sanctions yet against iran. and here's the most glaring problem. economic sanctions, according to many not working, iran continues to enrich uranium, continues with what it calls its peaceful nuclear program and neither candidate seems to have any fresh ideas how to stop it. >> reporter: i'm nick paton walsh in beirut. mitt romney tried to assert himself as tough. trying to draw distinction to the obama administration over their approach to syria. he was clear he will be sure that syrian rebels got the weapons they need, the heavy weaponry they need to take on the assad
obama's and mr. romney didn't do much to change that perception in iran after a speech that lacked specifics but was loaded with rhetoric and familiar tough talk. mr. romney said he'll put iran's leaders on notice, rhetoric mr. obama has used plenty of times. he also said he won't hesitate to impose sanctions. of course, mr. obama has already done that. it's been under his administration that western powers have delivered the toughest sanctions yet against iran. and here's the most glaring...
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president obama. and we have breaking news from mitt romney who just appeared on fox news and tried to rewrite this comments about 47% of america. >> a new mitt romney took the stage last night. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across thboard. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a$5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> i will repeal obamacare. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. >> he is saying he would not cut education. >> he says we need more firemen and more policemen. >> did he not get the message or wisconsin? >> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidential
president obama. and we have breaking news from mitt romney who just appeared on fox news and tried to rewrite this comments about 47% of america. >> a new mitt romney took the stage last night. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across thboard. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a$5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be...
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one had mitt romney up, one president obama up. it's a vital state and the the candidates are going to have to fight for it hard. president obama held his 17th ohio campaign rally this evening. today is the last day of voter registration in the buckeye state and the president pushed that message. >> ohio, ooism asking you for your vote. if you're willing to stand with me and work with me, knock on some doors and make some phone calls for me, we'll win franklin county again. we'll win ohio again. we'll win this election again. we'll finish what we started and we'll remind the world why the united states of america is the greatest nation on earth. >> mitt romney knows his chances of winning the presidency are slim without ohio, regardless of what the national polls say. romney scheduled multiple events in the state of ohio over the next several days as well as events in other swing states. he was in iowa today making the hard sell for voters to abandon president obama. >> i want to ask you for a commitment. that's for you to find one
one had mitt romney up, one president obama up. it's a vital state and the the candidates are going to have to fight for it hard. president obama held his 17th ohio campaign rally this evening. today is the last day of voter registration in the buckeye state and the president pushed that message. >> ohio, ooism asking you for your vote. if you're willing to stand with me and work with me, knock on some doors and make some phone calls for me, we'll win franklin county again. we'll win ohio...
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almost the same level as we were in 2007 because if i look at the presidential candidates today, if obama gets reelected i think the dow jones should be minus 13,473. if romney gets elected it should be minus 6,000. >> ythe market is up year to date. as you know october 1987 was not a friendly time. do you see anything underneath the hood that concerns you on that basis? >> yes. i mean, the previous person you interviewed said that everybody faced an increase. that is not what i see in the market place. government bonds, art, high end market, park avenue property market and equity and i think that the asset sizes are vulnerable in my view. >> i remember some time in the last 90 days you mentioned for the first time in a while you bought european stocks. are you still long european stocks? if not where would you get back into them? >> i am still long because i didn't buy that many. i don't buy them now. i think the lows that we have seen four months ago will be retested. maybe we'll not go down. you see i mentioned that the dial was almost at the previous week. if you look on the other han
almost the same level as we were in 2007 because if i look at the presidential candidates today, if obama gets reelected i think the dow jones should be minus 13,473. if romney gets elected it should be minus 6,000. >> ythe market is up year to date. as you know october 1987 was not a friendly time. do you see anything underneath the hood that concerns you on that basis? >> yes. i mean, the previous person you interviewed said that everybody faced an increase. that is not what i see...
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and by this afternoon the obama campaign was up with this video. mitt romney has millions invested in o. shore tax havens. he says it doesn't mean he's avoiding u.s. taxes. >> i have not saved one dollar by having an investment somewhere outside this country. >> there was no reduction, not one dollar reduction in taxes by virtue of having an account in switzerland or a cayman island investment. the dollars of taxes remain exactly the same. >> but that's not true. according to a new report from "the new york times" romney avoided taxes through investments in offshore tax havens. mitt romney avoided paying his fair share. what else is he hiding? >>> joining me now, david k johnston author of the new book, "the fine print" and karen finney. david k. johnstone, the times got tax experts to look at the tax returns and some documents they obtained from bain from this new report today. what did we learn? >> well, the cayman islands 4 hundred years ago was a hang out for pirates now it's a hang out for tax pirates. instead of a buried map of where the tres
and by this afternoon the obama campaign was up with this video. mitt romney has millions invested in o. shore tax havens. he says it doesn't mean he's avoiding u.s. taxes. >> i have not saved one dollar by having an investment somewhere outside this country. >> there was no reduction, not one dollar reduction in taxes by virtue of having an account in switzerland or a cayman island investment. the dollars of taxes remain exactly the same. >> but that's not true. according to...
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it always revert backs to two or three point for obama. i think in particular they're going to be watching ohio very closely to make sure they're maintaining their edge there. i think, frankly if you're the obama campaign you have to feel good about the fact that despite what was truly a lopsided performance, both in terms of reality and certainly in terms of the media portrayal of the performance, that romney has closed the gap, but still if the election were held today, if you're looking at the swing state polls, the president would still probably win. >> yeah. nate silver tweeted that saying people getting way too excited about these little moves in polls. i think he has the obama chance of victory at somewhere around 75%, which is down from 84% just a few days ago. but still, a 75% chance of winning. thank you both very much for joining me. >> thanks lawrence. >> coming up, mitt romney is now bi-curious. what does that mean for paul ryan in his debate? just how bi can paul ryan go? >>> and big bird's most passionate defender will join
it always revert backs to two or three point for obama. i think in particular they're going to be watching ohio very closely to make sure they're maintaining their edge there. i think, frankly if you're the obama campaign you have to feel good about the fact that despite what was truly a lopsided performance, both in terms of reality and certainly in terms of the media portrayal of the performance, that romney has closed the gap, but still if the election were held today, if you're looking at...
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john, what should president obama's objective be? >> he has the same agenda with any football team that has a lead late in the game. don't turn the ball over. he doesn't need to score. he doesn't need to move the ball. he just needs to prevent from the kind of catastrophic mistake that has occurred from time to time in presidential debates. not often. and president obama's not prone to mistakes very often. so he's got a low bar for what he wants to accomplish. we do know that a challenger merely by taking the stage with an incumbent president sell vated in tvais elevated in the eyes of the american people. president obama doesn't have to hurt mitt romney. he has to protect himself. >> hang on to the ball, no fumbles. john, amman, thank you. everyone, stay with cnbc. it is going to be a huge political night. larry kudlow will kick it off as usual with his program at 7:00. debate coverage rolls right out at 8:00, and goes right through with cnbc analysis. we want to hear from you. tweet us your thoughts on the election using the hash t
john, what should president obama's objective be? >> he has the same agenda with any football team that has a lead late in the game. don't turn the ball over. he doesn't need to score. he doesn't need to move the ball. he just needs to prevent from the kind of catastrophic mistake that has occurred from time to time in presidential debates. not often. and president obama's not prone to mistakes very often. so he's got a low bar for what he wants to accomplish. we do know that a challenger...
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where are you pin being the odds on a romney or obama victory? >> it's a close competitive election and we'll have to see whether president obama can come back in one of the two remaining debates. i think that's critical. he has to show his own party what he can do, because right now they're depressed. they're not as enthused as republicans are and this is a battle of the party bases. but if you're asking me who is more likely to win the election, i naturally look to the electoral college. he came up with a scenario for romney winning and are you absolutely right. but you see, the problem for romney is, there are many more plausible scenarios for barack obama to get to 270 than there are plausible scenarios for mitt romney to get to 270. >> i agree. i just wanted to confirm whether you believe romney can -- it would be harder -- but can win even if he loses ohio. >> of course. well, of course. look, it's a complicated electoral college. there are lots of ways to overcome losing almost any state -- except florida. florida's the only one that romne
where are you pin being the odds on a romney or obama victory? >> it's a close competitive election and we'll have to see whether president obama can come back in one of the two remaining debates. i think that's critical. he has to show his own party what he can do, because right now they're depressed. they're not as enthused as republicans are and this is a battle of the party bases. but if you're asking me who is more likely to win the election, i naturally look to the electoral...
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and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right. >> now what he dead, and i don't think he actually changed any of his policies. i've been following this campaign painfully so at times minute-by-minute for the last year or so. up don't think he changed substantively. what i think he did was use different language and tone. when he began talking about the role of government he talked about caring for people who are less fortunate. >> not scaring. i got to get out. steve we're going to have you back again. love to have you back. jennifer's going to hang around for awhile for the full show tonight. i want to switch gears. this goes to w
and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right. >> now what he dead, and i don't...
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and obama made two decisions. one was to prop the thing up and keep it going in alliance with other countries around the world and literally saved the fortunes of a lot of these people. but he made a second decision. there were progressives who thought we should have asked more questions about how did we get into this mess in the first place and president obama didn't go there because his advisers were worried if you push the system too hard, it might collapse. and so here are folks whose fortunes were saved in significant part by the president's policies and they are complaining because he doesn't say thank you to them. it's very strange. >> these guys got exactly what they wanted and just won't admit it. let's play more sound from sam zell. >> we need leadership, not criticism. until that scenario changes, i think the united states is, quote, unquote, and i hate to use this word, in a malaise. >> what the hell is he talking about? he's being criticized and president obama hasn't provided leadership. your thought
and obama made two decisions. one was to prop the thing up and keep it going in alliance with other countries around the world and literally saved the fortunes of a lot of these people. but he made a second decision. there were progressives who thought we should have asked more questions about how did we get into this mess in the first place and president obama didn't go there because his advisers were worried if you push the system too hard, it might collapse. and so here are folks whose...
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>> whatever it was, obama should have had some of it. the poll, the tracking is beginning to reflect -- >> we're getting into the big issues tonight and for the coming two presidential debates. >> i think that joe biden is going to draw up big. everyone wants to know if everyone's going to do it. to some extent i think it will be like nascar. is he going to make a mistake? the democrats have argued that romney's claim during last week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5 billion in taxes, but he did it again tonight on cnn just a short time ago. the obama attacks are false, let's see what you think here. >> he ignores the fact that they're going to limit the deduction and -- he ignores that part. obviously that was corrected by the deputy campaign manager who stipulated the $5 trillion number was wrong. it's completely wrong. the combination of limiting deductions as well as growth of our economy will make up for the reduction in rate. >> bob shrum, thank got in the rest of this discussion with wolf blitzer, he clarified the fact he'
>> whatever it was, obama should have had some of it. the poll, the tracking is beginning to reflect -- >> we're getting into the big issues tonight and for the coming two presidential debates. >> i think that joe biden is going to draw up big. everyone wants to know if everyone's going to do it. to some extent i think it will be like nascar. is he going to make a mistake? the democrats have argued that romney's claim during last week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5...
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the press too that obama will win. so maybe nothing short of a clear win can be a little problematic for them. >> let's consider what some conservatives are saying. let's start with bill crystal and what he had to say about the debate. >> every liberal professor i read or her advice is to be likable. you have to take care of your likability. forget it. it's too late for that. they both did well, it was so nice to have a respectful debate. they all got along. that's over. he's got to get under president obama's skin and really clarify the choice ahead. >> so karen finney, forget about being likable. don't try to get gentlemenly compliments after the debate. just go after the present as hard as you can. >> clearly bill crystal thinks that is not a winning proposition for governor romney am i do think that romney needs to be relatable, and em pathetic which so far has been very difficult for him. he needs to not come off as i'm up here and you're the 47%, you silly people, the way he can at times. and he probably needs to
the press too that obama will win. so maybe nothing short of a clear win can be a little problematic for them. >> let's consider what some conservatives are saying. let's start with bill crystal and what he had to say about the debate. >> every liberal professor i read or her advice is to be likable. you have to take care of your likability. forget it. it's too late for that. they both did well, it was so nice to have a respectful debate. they all got along. that's over. he's got to...
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obama is a 70% favorite. but my site had obama as an 85% favorite before the debate. means romney has gone double. people maybe read a little too much into the national polls. but even in the cases where obama was ahead by 7 points in the state before, that lead has been cut to 3 or 4. maybe you have a tie now. or romney ahead. there's a sign that obama's problems were worse just after the debate on thursday and friday and it's perking back up. we'll see in the next round show the swing states tied. then democrats really will be appropriate for them to panic a little bit. right now trepidation is the most appropriate emotion for democrats. if you see e obama's lead in the swing states evaporating as well, then it really is, i think, a toss up heading into the last debates. >> nate silver, author of the new book "the signal and the noise." more broadly it's about the whole statistical universe and how to understand it. nate, congratulations. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> pop quiz. paul ryan has either, a, just helped president obama with the nra, or b
obama is a 70% favorite. but my site had obama as an 85% favorite before the debate. means romney has gone double. people maybe read a little too much into the national polls. but even in the cases where obama was ahead by 7 points in the state before, that lead has been cut to 3 or 4. maybe you have a tie now. or romney ahead. there's a sign that obama's problems were worse just after the debate on thursday and friday and it's perking back up. we'll see in the next round show the swing states...
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one would make a market forecast based on one's prediction on whether romney comes into president or obama remains in. >> mr. vogel, let's go back here on the expectations of real returns for investors because i think you're talking about something that could be incredibly important. there's been tremendous concern regarding pension funds and their expected rates of returns on a yearly basis of around 8%. some said that's unrealistic. do you believe that's now fair? >> it's ridiculous. it's a numbers game in which the bested interest of the pension managers are to offer high returns and bested interest of the pension funds themselves are not impair the company's earnings by telling the truth. the reality is those numbers, by the way that i gave you before 7% for stocks, 2.5% to 3% for bonds are nominal numbers not real numbers. the real numbers we'll take 2%, 2.5% off of them. as to the 8% pension fund returns, i have a big section in the new book showing what companies would have to do to earn that 8% and the returns are off the chart. you have to have a very high stock market return, ver
one would make a market forecast based on one's prediction on whether romney comes into president or obama remains in. >> mr. vogel, let's go back here on the expectations of real returns for investors because i think you're talking about something that could be incredibly important. there's been tremendous concern regarding pension funds and their expected rates of returns on a yearly basis of around 8%. some said that's unrealistic. do you believe that's now fair? >> it's...